360Flex will be better thanks to the community
We've got 90 replies so far to the survey... really? Only 90 people took the time to answer 3 questions (plus an optional 4th) to help us make the event better... That means those 90 wield a lot of power. We're glad those 90 took the time to answer and hope everyone takes a minute to give us their thoughts. We'll be closing the survey down on Monday, 10/29/07 so get your answers in before then.
I wanted to take a minute to address some of the answers to our "what else" question. It's an open answer field. We don't know who these are from, but we're glad for each one.
"Make it $500 standard corporate rate. Offer the $140 discount to independent developers, without a corporate backing. Print a Corporate Supporters brochure for all corporations in that $500 category. 1/4 inch for each person sent. So, multiple attendees mean a corp can add up display space to tell what they are doing (recruit, etc.)"
That's an interesting idea. I don't know how the corps would react, but it's interesting since in most "enterprises" the more something costs, the higher value it MUST be. Don't ask me why, but that's the truth. We're gonna think on this one.
"I attended Seattle and brought my wife. One of the attractions for both of us was getting to see Seattle (we're from Chicago), staying close to the city center is important for my continued attendance at 360 events. I don't care much about the food, sorry. 360 Seattle DID gave the best conference food ever, but I'm a picky eater and - since my wife was along - we went out to eat."
We like downtowns too. It seems to be winning in the polls, so we'll likely stick to 'em.
"Speakers are what make the event. You get what you pay for. Better food or better speakers."
I personally think the that speakers we had in San Jose and Seattle are the best (with a few exceptions that we took care of). Hands down, I don't think there are better people in the field than those speaking at our events. Linking payment to quality of speaker is a slap in the face of the 70+ presenters we've had thus far. Free does NOT equal poor quality in the case of speakers. Well, at least our speakers.
"With a bit of extra work, you can find great speakers in most regions of the world without having to pay them to speak. If you keep the spirit of this a community conference (unlike MAX which is fun and good for the community, but clearly has a big corporation behind it), I don't think that is a requirement--getting a chance to speak at an event like this raises your profile and stature and is a reward in its own right. No one is paid to speak at BAR Camps or User Groups.... "
Honestly, that's what we thought too, but a very vocal minority (and all of Europe) disagreed.
"Is it a conference or a restaurant?"
Good question... and something we're now re-thinking. Ortega likes to eat though. He didn't earn the nickname FFM (Fat Funny Mexican) by fasting!
"Appreciate your efforts."
Thanks. Little notes like that mean the world to us.
"I can't believe you would actually think that the event price should be the same as the name. Grow up! Speakers want their costs covered. If you can't do the math and still offer a great conference experience, don't bother wasting speakers and attendee's time. All attendees want is value for money (not necessarily $30 tickets), a good venue/location and great speakers. All speakers want is for their expenses to be covered (airfare and accom) After all that - If you can't afford to pay for food and beverage at the event, or at least organise a sponsor to cover these costs - you really should forget about the whole developer event game completely!"
The matching was more of a nice joke, that obviously got lost in translation... Before throwing stones, I would suggest you attend a 360|Flex to see what it's all about. The cuteness may grow on ya! :P
"Speaker fees should be covered since they are sharing their knowledge and expertise and loosing money each day they are not at work. So at the minimun they should not invest in hotel reservations, flights or food during the event. That's the same as Adobe do with their events and 360 should provide the same experience to be a full great event. Thanks for running this survey :)"
So should speakers who use a canned preso that everyone has seen 3 times before, refund a small percentage to each attendee, many of whom are indep. consultants and are likewise losing money by being at the event? Additionally we thought, and I still think, speakers can learn at conferences too. As Tom said, speakers at our events are attendees with a little more responsibility. Maybe that's why we don't get speakers who think there's nothing left to learn. We get speakers who come up to us and say, "Damn that session was great. I didn't know that!"
All in all, each opinion is valuable. While we may not like what some of them say, that's the nature of opinions (go ask Salt-n-Pepa their thoughts on opinions). All comments, positive or negative, thankful or downright mean spirited, go into the hopper and get evaluated, and discussed. Believe it, future 360|Flex events will take this feedback and make the most of it.
We are also leaving the results public. Therefore, any conference can take advantage of our poll and use the data as they see fit.
If you're reading this before 10/29/07, it's not too late to answer! Go fill it out . Make your voice be heard. How many other conferences ask these questions and share the results with the world?
I wanted to take a minute to address some of the answers to our "what else" question. It's an open answer field. We don't know who these are from, but we're glad for each one.
"Make it $500 standard corporate rate. Offer the $140 discount to independent developers, without a corporate backing. Print a Corporate Supporters brochure for all corporations in that $500 category. 1/4 inch for each person sent. So, multiple attendees mean a corp can add up display space to tell what they are doing (recruit, etc.)"
That's an interesting idea. I don't know how the corps would react, but it's interesting since in most "enterprises" the more something costs, the higher value it MUST be. Don't ask me why, but that's the truth. We're gonna think on this one.
"I attended Seattle and brought my wife. One of the attractions for both of us was getting to see Seattle (we're from Chicago), staying close to the city center is important for my continued attendance at 360 events. I don't care much about the food, sorry. 360 Seattle DID gave the best conference food ever, but I'm a picky eater and - since my wife was along - we went out to eat."
We like downtowns too. It seems to be winning in the polls, so we'll likely stick to 'em.
"Speakers are what make the event. You get what you pay for. Better food or better speakers."
I personally think the that speakers we had in San Jose and Seattle are the best (with a few exceptions that we took care of). Hands down, I don't think there are better people in the field than those speaking at our events. Linking payment to quality of speaker is a slap in the face of the 70+ presenters we've had thus far. Free does NOT equal poor quality in the case of speakers. Well, at least our speakers.
"With a bit of extra work, you can find great speakers in most regions of the world without having to pay them to speak. If you keep the spirit of this a community conference (unlike MAX which is fun and good for the community, but clearly has a big corporation behind it), I don't think that is a requirement--getting a chance to speak at an event like this raises your profile and stature and is a reward in its own right. No one is paid to speak at BAR Camps or User Groups.... "
Honestly, that's what we thought too, but a very vocal minority (and all of Europe) disagreed.
"Is it a conference or a restaurant?"
Good question... and something we're now re-thinking. Ortega likes to eat though. He didn't earn the nickname FFM (Fat Funny Mexican) by fasting!
"Appreciate your efforts."
Thanks. Little notes like that mean the world to us.
"I can't believe you would actually think that the event price should be the same as the name. Grow up! Speakers want their costs covered. If you can't do the math and still offer a great conference experience, don't bother wasting speakers and attendee's time. All attendees want is value for money (not necessarily $30 tickets), a good venue/location and great speakers. All speakers want is for their expenses to be covered (airfare and accom) After all that - If you can't afford to pay for food and beverage at the event, or at least organise a sponsor to cover these costs - you really should forget about the whole developer event game completely!"
The matching was more of a nice joke, that obviously got lost in translation... Before throwing stones, I would suggest you attend a 360|Flex to see what it's all about. The cuteness may grow on ya! :P
"Speaker fees should be covered since they are sharing their knowledge and expertise and loosing money each day they are not at work. So at the minimun they should not invest in hotel reservations, flights or food during the event. That's the same as Adobe do with their events and 360 should provide the same experience to be a full great event. Thanks for running this survey :)"
So should speakers who use a canned preso that everyone has seen 3 times before, refund a small percentage to each attendee, many of whom are indep. consultants and are likewise losing money by being at the event? Additionally we thought, and I still think, speakers can learn at conferences too. As Tom said, speakers at our events are attendees with a little more responsibility. Maybe that's why we don't get speakers who think there's nothing left to learn. We get speakers who come up to us and say, "Damn that session was great. I didn't know that!"
All in all, each opinion is valuable. While we may not like what some of them say, that's the nature of opinions (go ask Salt-n-Pepa their thoughts on opinions). All comments, positive or negative, thankful or downright mean spirited, go into the hopper and get evaluated, and discussed. Believe it, future 360|Flex events will take this feedback and make the most of it.
We are also leaving the results public. Therefore, any conference can take advantage of our poll and use the data as they see fit.
If you're reading this before 10/29/07, it's not too late to answer! Go fill it out . Make your voice be heard. How many other conferences ask these questions and share the results with the world?
















4 Comments :
I'd like to publicly voice some opinions.
The main thing I would like to stress to all of you out there in Internet land - one thing techies need to accept is there is a business reality to all this, and I'm not talking about the business of 360 Flex but the business that is paying for you to go to conferences.
The reason a business sends you to a conference is not to have fun but to achieve some kind of value (aka ROI). Not only by enhancing your skills, but also from the best practices you take away, and the knowledge that you share with the rest of your team.
1) So point #1, is content is the key.
Whether there is a party or not should not influence ones decision on whether to go for a conference.
Whether it's downtown or not is truly irrelevant.
You have an obligation to your company, and to yourself, to grow your skills.
The #1 deciding factors in picking a conference to go to are:
- Is it within your (company's) budget
- Will it provide you with information that you can leverage to better your technology practices.
2) So regarding budgets - what's cheaper? A $500 3 day conference in a city where hotels are $400/night and $15/meal. Or a $1000 conference in a subburb where you can get motels at $50/night, and $10/meal.
360Flex is marketed as a low cost Conference. But you can't just look at the conference price itself; the true cost that your COMPANY pays for the ** ENTIRE ** trip.
- City Conference: $1835
- Subburb Conference: $1240
You need to factor in everything; more expensive cities will limit the potential viewing audience to bigger companies that can afford to send people.
If you aim for the total cost to be low, you enable more people to attend as even a couple of hundred makes a big difference to small companies.
3) To ensure high quality content, it's tough for speakers to take their own time and money to fly out and speak. To guarantee quality content, a high priority should be to foot the bill for speakers.
"Ortega likes to eat though. He didn't earn the nickname FFM (Fat Funny Mexican) by fasting!"
In that case, seeing as I love mexican food. I say we vote to just have FFM's mom cook food for 360Flex08!
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"Regarding jerky response against cuteness."
Cute and affordable $360 is good with me. Keep it community and try to give the speakers other perks.
Perhaps if possible do one special dinner or after-party just for the speakers/presenters. (Of course, breaking even comes first.)
I have to argue against making it the best possible experience for speakers. I recommend it ought to be that it be the best possible
experience for the greatest number of ppl.
Speakers being paid because they are doing the community "favor" will only form an elitist mentality.
360 from what I gather is to promote the technology, open eyes, and open doors. Any unnecessary increase in price will degrade these goals.
@anonymous
That's my fear too, and I hope the Flex community doesn't go down that path, like many have.
Right now the Flex community is people doing cool things for the sake of doing it, not for the sake of limelight, or promoting their own name.
I'm hoping we can walk that thin line, because I'd rather not do this, than promote ego and elitism
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