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	<title>Comments on: 1 CFUnited could pay for all 5 360&#124;Flex events and 3 CF.Objective() events</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Ortega</title>
		<link>http://www.360conferences.com/blog/2008/07/1-cfunited-could-pay-for-all-5-360flex-events-and-3-cfobjective-events/comment-page-1#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Ortega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anon&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This ones for you!  :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://360conferences.com/blog/2008/10/why-are-you-picking-on-cfunited-answer.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://360conferences.com/blog/2008/10/why-are-you-picking-on-cfunited-answer.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anon</p>
<p>This ones for you!  :)<br /><a HREF="http://360conferences.com/blog/2008/10/why-are-you-picking-on-cfunited-answer.html" REL="nofollow">http://360conferences.com/blog/2008/10/why-are-you-picking-on-cfunited-answer.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Wilker</title>
		<link>http://www.360conferences.com/blog/2008/07/1-cfunited-could-pay-for-all-5-360flex-events-and-3-cfobjective-events/comment-page-1#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Actually Liz came back and asked if we&#039;d like more &quot;correct&quot; facts. We said yes, and received no reply. To me that&#039;s a conversation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve heard there&#039;s something like 2400 conferences a year. We only know about the ones in our sphere of influence. In that sphere. it&#039;s CFU, CF.O, FOTB, FITC, FF, a few others, Flash belt.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;CFU wasn&#039;t being singled out so much as being made an example of. CF.O was included in the post, as it&#039;s also a low cost, high value conference. We also singled CFU out, because I&#039;ve attended it before. I know what I felt when I left. Every event in the price range of CFU, is, IMO suspect.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe that all events that charge anywhere near what CFU, does, are charging too much. That includes MAX. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;MAX however isn&#039;t a community event. MAX is Adobe marketing. MAX also covers a much deeper and broader spectrum of products. CFU, is well... CF. and some Flex, to have an RIA presence. SO not really an even comparison.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you&#039;d like to sit down and have a call with Tom and or I, we&#039;d love to talk more about the topic. We&#039;re pretty open and honest about the whole thing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And yeah we don&#039;t know CFU&#039;s exact numbers. However we do know what stuff costs, it&#039;s not hard to make pretty educated guesses. We&#039;re not exactly not familiar with events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous, </p>
<p>Actually Liz came back and asked if we&#8217;d like more &#8220;correct&#8221; facts. We said yes, and received no reply. To me that&#8217;s a conversation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard there&#8217;s something like 2400 conferences a year. We only know about the ones in our sphere of influence. In that sphere. it&#8217;s CFU, CF.O, FOTB, FITC, FF, a few others, Flash belt.</p>
<p>CFU wasn&#8217;t being singled out so much as being made an example of. CF.O was included in the post, as it&#8217;s also a low cost, high value conference. We also singled CFU out, because I&#8217;ve attended it before. I know what I felt when I left. Every event in the price range of CFU, is, IMO suspect.</p>
<p>I believe that all events that charge anywhere near what CFU, does, are charging too much. That includes MAX. </p>
<p>MAX however isn&#8217;t a community event. MAX is Adobe marketing. MAX also covers a much deeper and broader spectrum of products. CFU, is well&#8230; CF. and some Flex, to have an RIA presence. SO not really an even comparison.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to sit down and have a call with Tom and or I, we&#8217;d love to talk more about the topic. We&#8217;re pretty open and honest about the whole thing.</p>
<p>And yeah we don&#8217;t know CFU&#8217;s exact numbers. However we do know what stuff costs, it&#8217;s not hard to make pretty educated guesses. We&#8217;re not exactly not familiar with events.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s fairly simple. CFUnited, could easily engage in this conversation and explain why their event costs what it does. They choose not to, we choose to ask the qeuestion.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;John, you didn&#039;t ask a question, you made a bold sweeping statement, then went on to clarify in the comments that you actually have no accurate figures to base it on.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ll ask a question, why is this post specific to CFUnited when there are so many other conferences that charge the same, if not more (i.e. Max)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s fairly simple. CFUnited, could easily engage in this conversation and explain why their event costs what it does. They choose not to, we choose to ask the qeuestion.&#8221;</p>
<p>John, you didn&#8217;t ask a question, you made a bold sweeping statement, then went on to clarify in the comments that you actually have no accurate figures to base it on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll ask a question, why is this post specific to CFUnited when there are so many other conferences that charge the same, if not more (i.e. Max)?</p>
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		<title>By: John Wilker</title>
		<link>http://www.360conferences.com/blog/2008/07/1-cfunited-could-pay-for-all-5-360flex-events-and-3-cfobjective-events/comment-page-1#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymous,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We don&#039;t have any accurate figures, because they choose not to share. You&#039;re right, they don&#039;t have to be transparent, that&#039;s their right. That doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039; call them out. We do know what they charge, and can make fairly accurate guesses based on our own experiences.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for MAX... I don&#039;t want to imagine how many 360&#124;Flexs MAX could pay for, I don&#039;t deal in numbers that large. We&#039;ve been and are critical of MAX, but it&#039;s not a community event. It&#039;s Adobe&#039;s Marketing event.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s fairly simple. CFUnited, could easily engage in this conversation and explain why their event costs what it does. They choose not to, we choose to ask the qeuestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anonymous,</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have any accurate figures, because they choose not to share. You&#8217;re right, they don&#8217;t have to be transparent, that&#8217;s their right. That doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217; call them out. We do know what they charge, and can make fairly accurate guesses based on our own experiences.</p>
<p>As for MAX&#8230; I don&#8217;t want to imagine how many 360|Flexs MAX could pay for, I don&#8217;t deal in numbers that large. We&#8217;ve been and are critical of MAX, but it&#8217;s not a community event. It&#8217;s Adobe&#8217;s Marketing event.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fairly simple. CFUnited, could easily engage in this conversation and explain why their event costs what it does. They choose not to, we choose to ask the qeuestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know bugger all about CFUnited, but I feel it&#039;s slightly unfair you&#039;ve picked 1 conference out of the many that take place, then make a post on it with the title &quot;1 CFUnited could pay for all 5 360&#124;Flex events and 3 CF.Objective() events&quot;, then afterwards admit you don&#039;t have any accurate facts and figures.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interestingly enough it seems your supporters of Max (no bad thing), but what about the costs for Max? How many 360&#039;s would one Max pay for?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Its cool 360Flex is transparent, but it doesn&#039;t mean anyone else should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know bugger all about CFUnited, but I feel it&#8217;s slightly unfair you&#8217;ve picked 1 conference out of the many that take place, then make a post on it with the title &#8220;1 CFUnited could pay for all 5 360|Flex events and 3 CF.Objective() events&#8221;, then afterwards admit you don&#8217;t have any accurate facts and figures.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough it seems your supporters of Max (no bad thing), but what about the costs for Max? How many 360&#8242;s would one Max pay for?</p>
<p>Its cool 360Flex is transparent, but it doesn&#8217;t mean anyone else should be.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wilker</title>
		<link>http://www.360conferences.com/blog/2008/07/1-cfunited-could-pay-for-all-5-360flex-events-and-3-cfobjective-events/comment-page-1#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@liz definately, please correct us where we&#039;re wrong. We definately. Would love to have accurate facts and figures. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We&#039;re major proponents of transparency, so let&#039;s share</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@liz definately, please correct us where we&#8217;re wrong. We definately. Would love to have accurate facts and figures. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re major proponents of transparency, so let&#8217;s share</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Ortega</title>
		<link>http://www.360conferences.com/blog/2008/07/1-cfunited-could-pay-for-all-5-360flex-events-and-3-cfobjective-events/comment-page-1#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Ortega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Liz Are you asking me or Jeff?  Sure, if you&#039;d like you can post the facts on the CFU site or here or in an email to info@360flex.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Liz Are you asking me or Jeff?  Sure, if you&#8217;d like you can post the facts on the CFU site or here or in an email to <a href="mailto:info@360flex.com">info@360flex.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Frederick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Frederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you like to get the facts straight from the source? About 90% of your information in incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you like to get the facts straight from the source? About 90% of your information in incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffry Houser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffry Houser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can disclaim this by saying that I don&#039;t know anything. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; I had always assumed that CFUNITED made &gt;$1 million per event; with roughly one third of total revenue coming from the ticket price and the rest coming from sponsors.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; As I said, I don&#039;t actually know the numbers, but that was always my speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can disclaim this by saying that I don&#8217;t know anything. </p>
<p> I had always assumed that CFUNITED made >$1 million per event; with roughly one third of total revenue coming from the ticket price and the rest coming from sponsors.  </p>
<p> As I said, I don&#8217;t actually know the numbers, but that was always my speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wilker</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anon, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;also we figured by using the early bird pricing it would balance out since I&#039;m sure many did not get that price, and paid a good deal more. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The actual numbers would be sweet! But not everyone is as transparent as us. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anon, </p>
<p>also we figured by using the early bird pricing it would balance out since I&#8217;m sure many did not get that price, and paid a good deal more. </p>
<p>The actual numbers would be sweet! But not everyone is as transparent as us. :)</p>
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